Does kobo spy?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by John F

I'm a little surprised you consider my posts (at least in this thread) so wild. Your original post seemed very vague? From a programming standpoint it seems to me if koreader is storing data, Kobo can access it.

Most of your posts seem to postulate rather wild theories. Much like listening to my grandchildren postulating their what-ifs, you do not seem to bother with doing any serious thinking before posting.

From a programming viewpoint sure. From Kobo's point of view, what benefit do they receive from accessing KOReader's statistics database? Compare this to the cost of their developers locating the database, reading the information out of it and sending that information off to Kobo for that small percentage of Kobo readers with KOReader installed.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DNSB

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From a programming viewpoint sure. From Kobo's point of view, what benefit do they receive from accessing KOReader's statistics database? Compare this to the cost of their developers locating the database, reading the information out of it and sending that information off to Kobo for that small percentage of Kobo readers with KOReader installed.

This I agree with. Maybe lead with this next time.

[Jane Eyre]

Hi. I pull up this topic.
Talking about the DRM issue on another discussion group.. I was alerted by someone that removing it is quite risky because inside a protected epub there are a lot of hidden markers and UUID..

For what you know, is it true?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

Hi. I pull up this topic.
Talking about the DRM issue on another discussion group.. I was alerted by someone that removing it is quite risky because inside a protected epub there are a lot of hidden markers and UUID..

For what you know, is it true?

Probably, but if you don't share your deDRMed books indiscriminately over the net, who is going to know or care? If you mean that you could get in trouble over deDRMed books being on your Kobo or Kindle, no, you won't. Unless your device was stolen and the thief uploaded the books to a file-sharing site, perhaps.

For your own personal use, there is no risk in removing the DRM.

[Jane Eyre]

I lost the habit..honestly. I don't remove the DRM and I certainly don't share my files. I just want to know more about the matter in deep.
Anyway, it is said everywhere that the act itself, for one's personal use or not is in fact an offence.
We the final users must face facts, for unfair they could be.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

Hi. I pull up this topic.
Talking about the DRM issue on another discussion group.. I was alerted by someone that removing it is quite risky because inside a protected epub there are a lot of hidden markers and UUID..

For what you know, is it true?

The UUID is not a watermark. I have removed the DRM from plenty of ePub and I've seen the code and there are not lots of hidden markers. Also, DeDRM has an option to remove watermarks which do remove the UUID and other things if they are there. This would be done should the ePub had DRM or not. DeDRM even removes the Kindle eBook watermark even if the eBook has no DRM.

You are worrying over nothing.

Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

I lost the habit..honestly. I don't remove the DRM and I certainly don't share my files. I just want to know more about the matter in deep.
Anyway, it is said everywhere that the act itself, for one's personal use or not is in fact an offence.
We the final users must face facts, for unfair they could be.

As long as removing DRM s for your personal use, there's no offense. It's called fair use.

It seems wherever you get your information is wrong about most everything.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

As long as removing DRM s for your personal use, there's no offense. It's called fair use.

It seems wherever you get your information is wrong about most everything.

It's not an offence in the US. It is in the EU (there's no such concept as "fair use" here).

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

Anyway, it is said everywhere that the act itself, for one's personal use or not is in fact an offence.
We the final users must face facts, for unfair they could be.

Yes, I know it is. So what? I'm not going to blindly follow a law that's directly harmful to my interests as a customer and exists only to protect the interests of the publishers.

[Jane Eyre]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

It's not an offence in the US. It is in the EU (there's no such concept as "fair use" here).

Yes, exactly. We don't have any type of "fair use" in the European Union.
So, today I learnt a thing that I ignored! American citizens may legally remove the DRM for personal use. How fortunate.

[Penny]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Yes, I know it is. So what? I'm not going to blindly follow a law that's directly harmful to my interests as a customer and exists only to protect the interests of the publishers.

This is the correct mindset, and it's sad to see people complacently following laws put in place by politicians who are getting their pockets lined by the corporations. People would seemingly give up their firstborn if a law mandated it.

[TheSmitty]

Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

Yes, exactly. We don't have any type of "fair use" in the European Union.
So, today I learnt a thing that I ignored! American citizens may legally remove the DRM for personal use. How fortunate.

Yep, do it monthly with ebooks, audiobooks and less frequently now blu-rays. All that I bought on my one and they sit on my NAS and cloud backup.

[JSWolf]

It may not be legal to remove the DRM in the USA. But I do it anyway because I do it for personal use. I refuse to have DRM on eBooks I've purchased.

[Sirtel]

Many older members here have been burned by the said law when bookstores went out of business or DRM servers shut down, making their DRMed ebooks unreadable. If one is willing to risk losing their books (yes, I know it's pretty unlikely that Amazon or Kobo will go bankrupt or close their ebook business in the near future, but it's not impossible, to say nothing of various smaller companies), then one is of course free to leave the DRM intact. And there are lots of people who only read everything once or mostly read library books and just don't care about DRM. Personally I'm not willing to risk my ebook library, collected throughout many years, just because the law says I must.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

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As long as removing DRM s for your personal use, there's no offense. It's called fair use.

It seems wherever you get your information is wrong about most everything.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It may not be legal to remove the DRM in the USA. ...

What am I missing here. I thought in your first quote you were saying it is legal. It made me look, and this popped up (which I don't recall hearing about):

https://arstechnica.com/information-...-use-is-legal/

[chrisridd]

If you're concerned about a book being identified by a UUID, just generate another UUID and replace it. I don't think it loses you anything.